Comments on: Maine votes against gay marriage: some thoughts

By: duane

duane — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:33:28 +0000

@Nate: You fall under the same fallacy as the guy I quoted in the article. You say that you are not a bigot, yet your vote represents bigoted, discriminatory views. You can’t vote for something that represents discrimination and say you aren’t discriminatory.

You said:

yes there aare some people out there who voted yes on 1 just so they can stick it to the gays, but theirs other people who didn’t, like me who just wants to express his opinion but can’t do so without being called a bigot gay hater or numerous other terms.

My point to you, is that it isn’t your place to “make an opinion” about anyone else’s civil rights. Additionally, if you don’t want to be lumped in with bigots and discriminatory people, you probably should agree with their positions, and vote along side them. Point blank, this vote is discriminatory, and represents bigoted values; you voted for it, so you are saying it is okay.

Finally, you said:

Also to the morons who say religion shouldn’t be part of politics, well shit it’s part of most people’s lives.

I’m not the one saying that; the Constitution of the United States says that, and I just happen to agree with the principle.

By: Rightwing Bugboy

Rightwing Bugboy — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:41:51 +0000

I’m amazed at the feeling of ownership of marriage straights have. There is no legal basis for this arbitrary denial of rights. And I think it demonstrates the visceral disgust many have for gays. This is the same things that happened to blacks (only they had it much worse) but in the end I believe we will also win.

By: Nate Douglass

Nate Douglass — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:42:40 +0000

Hello, my name is nate douglass. I live in maine and although i am not old enough to vote i voted yes on quastion 1 in my school votes. I know what your saying right now, “this kid is a frigin bigot, and probably is a gay basher or somethin”. Well your wrong, I voted yes on 1 because of my personal view of marriage being between one man and one woman.I am personally pissed of all gays and lezbians calling people like me a bigot. I am not a bigot. My great uncle was gay, and he wasn’t a good man. He was actually a dick to a lot of people, but yeah know i let that go because i know not all gay people are like that. Also to the morons who say religion shouldn’t be part of politics, well shit it’s part of most people’s lives. You can’t live your life by something and when a ballot comes around not let it influance you. But in general what im saying is shutup with all this your a bigot, and his a bigot bullshit. yes there aare some people out there who voted yes on 1 just so they can stick it to the gays, but theirs other people who didn’t, like me who just wants to express his opinion but can’t do so without being called a bigot gay hater or numerous other terms. So before you go calling people bigots frigin shutup, and please just be civil about it. Because the other sides got people who are willing to talk as well. Sorry if i rambled a little bit I just want people to understand that im not a bigot, but you can say whatever you want.

By: duane

duane — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:42:59 +0000

@Robin: Agreed. The more you really dissect people’s religious position and what they use it to justify, it makes me run further and further from religion itself. I used to be incredibly religious, and since I came out, I have been less and less so; not because I believe in God any less, but explicitly because of his followers.

I also find it interesting how explicit the government is about not including religion, and how we are supposed to subscribe to a system of checks and balances, yet in the case of gay marriage, we abandon both in every instance. It makes no sense. Not to mention, if you were to do the EXACT same thing to them (challenge their rights because of religion, meaning take away their freedom of religion) they would NOT stand for it; yet they don’t “understand” why we are so upset. Fuck you, you selfish nitwits.

By: Robin

Robin — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:22:33 +0000

Despite the obvious reasons people seem to be against gay marriage (fear, hatred, whatever) what also annoys me is so many people use the religious aspect of marriage to go against gay marriage. I do not think religion should have anything to do with politics and that really annoys me. They need to step outside this religious concept of marriage they have and realize it’s about their rights and having the same ones everyone else does. It’s this crap that turns me more and more against religious enthusiasts.

By: duane

duane — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:30:14 +0000

@mingaling: Me either, yet here we are. People that keep reassuring me that we will eventually have equal civil rights have a harder time convincing me each time something like this sets us back.

As my friend Deb said this morning, “living in the USA is so demoralizing. when will our leaders finally stop putting civil rights to the vote and actually step up and do something?”. Exactly. When will they?

By: mingaling

mingaling — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:46:09 +0000

This is one of the biggest social injustices of our time. I still cannot comprehend how this is justified – daily and often.