Comments on: WTF Out magazine? Katy Perry as musician of the year? Are you JOKING?

By: Ultra Dave

Ultra Dave — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:54:08 +0000

It must have upset enough people that they had a lot of copies left over. They sent me 2 this month.

By: Slubbage

Slubbage — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:51:48 +0000

I’d nail her

By: Thomas

Thomas — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:51:14 +0000

Enough. Really, now.

If I say that someone is acting like an “idiot,” and if I say such with a negative connotation, then one can infer from my speech that I have a rather low opinion of what? That’s right. Idiots.

If I say that someone has the patience of a “saint,” and if I say such with a positive (not ironic) connotation, then one can infer from my speech that I have a rather high opinion of what? Amen. Saint.

Ergo, Katy Perry’s song is expressing a songwriter’s (and by association, Ms Perry’s) notion that they’ve a low opinion of what group of people?

By: dpb

dpb — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:49:56 +0000

Maybe she meant gay as in happy?

By: duane

duane — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:49:12 +0000

Dave, the problem is that she doesn’t stop there. She doesn’t just describe him as being fashionable, and then throws a big thumbs up to the fact that he’s a swell guy. She goes on and on calling him gay, for the purpose of making fun of him, and in her own words, “to get back at him for hurting her”. Again, that is defamatory, and wrong.

And I don’t know if you meant that last comment as sarcasm, but I am not unhappy with myself.

By: dpb

dpb — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:47:28 +0000

Also Dave, her lackadaisical attitude about how people are â€œunhappy with themselvesâ€ if they find offense in her hate speech is what sends me over the edge.

yeah… unhappy with yourself… that doesn’t describe you at all.

By: dpb

dpb — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:46:41 +0000

Or, she’s saying the guy she likes has the traits of someone who is gay. Had she said he wore pink thongs and marched in parades screaming woohoo at every guy passing by … then yeah, I could see how that could be perceived as defamatory. But she’s saying the guy is fashionable, cultured, and what have ya … nothing really negative there.

By: duane

duane — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:46:25 +0000

Also Dave, her lackadaisical attitude about how people are “unhappy with themselves” if they find offense in her hate speech is what sends me over the edge.

By: duane

duane — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:41:00 +0000

Dave, it isn’t about the stereotypes, it’s what she is representing in the song. In calling her boyfriend gay, she is insulting him. She is equating being gay with something being wrong with him in a way that utilizes stereotypes that are sometimes equated with gay people. It is defamatory, and again, you don’t have to see it that way, but that is the way that it is, and I am sure that other gay people see it that way as well.

By: dpb

dpb — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:38:42 +0000

You’re right. I don’t know how saying someone wearing an H&M scarf is negative… how not eating meat is offensive… how listening to indie rock is wrong.