Comments on: etiquette… not requirement… okay?

By: Murf

Murf — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:56:44 +0000

Or could it be a flaw of the Southern woman? “Men must hold the door for me AT ALL TIMES.” I would like to think that us Yankee girls would have realized that you had already gone too far to hold the door open. Besides, she could have sped up a bit if she saw you coming out.

By: duane

duane — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:30:30 +0000

dave, it was never meant to be a girls are stupid. They aren’t. Some of the ones I work with obviously are, though.

By: dpb

dpb — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:46:04 +0000

Back to the point, girls are stupid.

By: mingaling

mingaling — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:16:04 +0000

Maybe if men didn’t always insist on opening doors for you, and insist on you going through them first (for what? so they can check out your ass or something…which I find highly disturbing) then women wouldn’t come to expect it of them.

Good point Deb. I was afraid this would continue as a girls-are-stupid post.

By: duane

duane — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:47:58 +0000

atlmalcontent, I can say one thing about you; at least you consistently miss the point! LOL, thanks for the laugh.

By: Deb

Deb — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:41:11 +0000

Well, I try and hold the door open for men (and women, but since you’ve already covered that one) and that ALWAYS gets awkward…we end up in a door-opening stand-off. I shoo them through, but often they insist on me going through first, sometimes resulting in a head-on collision. It’s hardly a threat to masculinity to have a woman hold the door open for you, geez. Maybe if men didn’t always insist on opening doors for you, and insist on you going through them first (for what? so they can check out your ass or something…which I find highly disturbing) then women wouldn’t come to expect it of them.

By: Simon

Simon — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:22:41 +0000

I open doors for men and women if they are within a couple of steps of me. What I really hate is when they don’t even acknowledge my existence. Depending on my mood I’ll either ignore it or mutter something under my breath but I’ve never said anything out loud to the offender.

What I hate too is when someone holds a door open for you and you are about 30 feet away and you feel obliged to run so you don’t inconvenience them. That defeats the whole purpose of etiquette.

By: atlmalcontent

atlmalcontent — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:07:04 +0000

Just what the world needs, less etiquette. Not everyone who opens doors for women are trying to sleep with them. That goes for your acolytes, too.

And what about having to help these old bitches crossing the street, just because they’re old and female. No one ever helps me cross a street. Gah!

By: SparklesMpls

SparklesMpls — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:38:44 +0000

LOVED this post - I even read the entire thing!

I have had so many similar experiences that I’ve given up on holding doors and elevators. Have you also noticed that you have to allow women to enter and exist elevators first? If you do not, you’re likely to run into them as they try to get by you.

I figure that this behavior started by guys trying to woo gals. Since I’m not trying to woo any women, I don’t find it necessary to hold doors open for them.

The UPS man, however, is another story entirely.

By: joey

joey — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:59:20 +0000

I don’t have a problem with people thinking I’m rude for not holding the door. No one opened it for me.. you and open it your damn self too. They can complain about it all they want. Their complaints don’t affect me. What I DO have a problem with is women who think I’m going to hold the door open while they walk in first. Or.. women who think they have the right to walk into the elevator first even though I was a) there first and b) closer. Those bitches get pushed out of the way. If I’m feeling particularly nice, I will let someone go first. But don’t ASSUME I’m going to let you by.

The women entitlement etiquette comes from men letting them pass or holding doors b/c they want to court the woman. Well I’m gay. And an attractive man has a much higher chance of getting a door held for him than a woman. But to be fair, his chances aren’t so high either.