If man is causing global warming, how come it’s happening on Mars, too?

So, the global warming on Mars is the same as on Earth, because they have the same atmosphere, are the same distance from the sun, have the same climate patterns and temperature patterns as earth, and are comprised of the same CO2 levels? I don’t think so. If you can show me compelling evidence that Mars’ global warming is the same as the Earth’s because of the same variables, then we will talk. Until then, the evidence is pretty compelling that it is humans that are causing climate change, dave.

Where exactly did he say that? I watched all eight minutes and twenty seconds and all I heard him say was that each person should have the tools made available to them so they may more easily be able take responsibility for their own healthcare.

While I do agree that a person should, in many ways, be responsible for their own health; I don’t think it is realistic, logical, or even intelligent to think that everyone should be able to come up with the tools necessary to provide themselves with health care, should they need it. By suggesting that we switch to programs like health spending accounts, and increase personal responsibility for health care, Bush is blatantly saying, “if you get sick, you should have been prepared for it. Since you don’t have the money to go to the doctor, it’s your fault.”. I’m sorry if I over simplified it, which led you to think that this was not what he was saying; because it isn’t the first time he has advocated making people responsible for health care in a system that is built to make the system as rich as possible at the expense of every patient in it.

No, I’m not being ‘all or nothing here.’ I’m trying to point out that the more services you make available for free, the more those services will be abused.

dave, that is just as ignorant as saying, just because there is food, everyone will eat until you explode, just because it is available. Yes, there are people that exploit the system, but there are just as many that are slammed by the system; which is not accounted for when you just say, “but they might abuse it!”.

You start offering free services to everyone and the cost will go up… who’s going to foot that bill? Tax dollars? From who?

I have never said “free” services. I have said services that the government offers; like in every other industrialized nation in the world save one other. I think it is fair to assume that if we spent less on defense (more than every other country in the world combined), and more on our own people; the tax differential would be minimal.

Exactly, people want to blame others for their situation and not take responsibility. Hey, I’m sorry people are suffering out there and I have no problem helping them when I get to choose to help… I don’t like my money being taken at gun-point and given to people that may not really need it.

Again, you assume that people will take advantage because they can; which is speculative at best. Additionally, I am sorry to inform you, but if you want to live in a society, you have to contribute to it. You are the one that is all about the fair tax, and everyone contributing their share. Well, if that system were used to actually collect taxes, and then return those benefits to the people, would you then be so against them (since everyone is contributing)? It isn’t very different when you examine the possibility of the government providing services to those that need it. Many people will not need the services, but the taxes that we pay make this country better for everyone. I am tired of you reducing everyone that needs help into a person that is just looking for a hand out. I would have thought that not having a job would have changed your perspective even slightly, but I see that it didn’t; which honestly surprises me. I just hope that you are never faced with a situation in which you are doing everything you can to pull yourself up, and all you do is get no help, and instead get knocked back down. Does that mean you don’t deserve services? Well, according to you, no, because any assistance is being called a hand out. It is just too over simplified, and I will never agree with handling the potential services for people in this country based on broad generalizations that do not represent the majority.

Apparently, and according to our president, when you get sick, or the fact that you are uninsured, it is your fault.

Where exactly did he say that? I watched all eight minutes and twenty seconds and all I heard him say was that each person should have the tools made available to them so they may more easily be able take responsibility for their own healthcare. I agree. How can you not?

I guess it is easier to blame people for their problems than it is to actually help them.

… just like it’s easier for me to blame others for my problems and ask for a hand out. No, I’m not being ‘all or nothing here.’ I’m trying to point out that the more services you make available for free, the more those services will be abused. Do you know why there are co-pays and deductibles? It’s not so insurance companies can make money, it’s so they can keep people from going to the doctor excessively and keep the cost of your premiums down by keeping their costs down. You start offering free services to everyone and the cost will go up… who’s going to foot that bill? Tax dollars? From who?

people really love to point the finger and place blame without thinking about those that suffer.

Exactly, people want to blame others for their situation and not take responsibility. Hey, I’m sorry people are suffering out there and I have no problem helping them when I get to choose to help… I don’t like my money being taken at gun-point and given to people that may not really need it.

Oh, and even if that is not credible, I am going to blindly trust what it says.