hopeful of change for Iraq, and some other interesting things

So, the surge, you know, the one that I said wouldn’t work (because the many before it didn’t either), apparently isn’t working. Oops… I mean, we should have known better right? Wait… WE DID! Well, you would think at this point we would have gained a better perspective on things, especially regarding foreign policingpolicy, but alas, we aren’t making the changes we need to. But if you want to continue to believe that we are not causing any problems, and that genocide of Iraq and Iran is the answer, please, bury your head back in the sand, and let those of us that know the truth, strategize in peace.

However this goes, I have ultimate hope that this is true (that picture makes me want to vomit): apparently, given the dissension of his cronies, Bush might actually give in and compromise on a pull out strategy for Iraq. It is becoming clearer and clearer each and every day that we are doing way more harm than good by being in Iraq, and it is good to see more people coming over the that truth; even if it has taken this long. (Apparently, even though they aren’t doing what they need to do to get better, the Iraqis don’t agree that a pull out is good… hmmm, aren’t they already in a full blown civil war? Yeah, so stop using the “threat” of that as an excuse.).

This whole issue is like beating a dead horse, and we really just need to go ahead and bury the corpse already; it has gone beyond stinking. Stop the war, stop the killing, and stop trying to steal oil from another country. Let’s focus on us… that would be a good place to start.

Also, I don’t know how I feel about this, other than to say it pisses me off that people can generalize things so ridiculously. So let’s see, since SOME people get prescribed anti-depressants who are not depressed, it must mean that everyone is just seeking a “freebie” or an “easy out”? Fuck you. Seriously, fuck you. I know for my depression, I was in therapy a good 3 months before I ever even brought up the word medication, and I didn’t want to go on it, because I was not sure I needed it. I sought help for my depression, and as a result, have gotten a lot better. If I would have kept going down the road I was on, who knows what would have happened. I have said it before, and I will say it again, this sort of turning a blind eye on the need for mental health (as one sane doctor in the article calls for more of) is dangerous and just plain wrong. I hope that people continue to seek help if they need it; because even with the drugs, it isn’t an “easy fix”. Getting over depression is a daily struggle, and those drugs don’t take care of that for you. Shame on the people that are lumping and splitting all people on these medications in that way.

I also found this an interesting read. It seems pretty compelling that there is enough of a case to believe that perhaps Kurt Cobain didn’t kill himself. That really gets me thinking, especially because I remember when it was reported that he died. It really hit a lot of people hard, and it did seem a little out of place. Hmm… perhaps something will come of this? Either way, it was interesting to read, so I thought I would share.

That’s enough for today, I guess. Stay cool… it’s hot as fuck out there.

39 Responses to “hopeful of change for Iraq, and some other interesting things”


  1. Gravatar Icon 1 atlmalcontent Jul 10th, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    Where’s that stolen oil, Duane? Seems like we’d be paying a little bit less at the pump if we had all these extra reserves. Of course, that’s our mission: kill Muslims and steal their oil. You make Rosie O’Donnell sound reasonable. For once, provide some evidence instead of crap like “those of us who know the facts.” Would those people be you, Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky and Rosie?

    Of course you knew the surge wouldn’t work — you are a military expert, after all. And a truth teller. So brave. So wise. So above it all — maybe I should try some of your meds, although there appears to be a delusion appears to be a side effect.

  2. Gravatar Icon 2 atlmalcontent Jul 10th, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    meant to say: delusion appears to be a side effect.

  3. Gravatar Icon 3 joey Jul 10th, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    atlmal… Rosie only sounds unreasonable if you only pay attention to the snippets on Fox.

  4. Gravatar Icon 4 duane Jul 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    three words: oil sharing agreements.

    Is that delusional or reality? Oh wait! Reality!!!!

    And I knew the surge wouldn’t work based on what military experts said, so I guess that does make me a military expert, since I was listening to the advice of military experts. They said that all of the surges (what like 5 or 6? I can’t remember) wouldn’t work, because if you truly wanted to maintain security in Iraq you would need hundreds of thousands of troops, not just 10k here, and 20k there. Perhaps you think I am making that up too; ugh, you should read more, and listen to what is going on, and you will be more well informed, rather than just repeating your talking points.

    And thanks for showing your true colors and making fun of someone on depression medications; not like I expected anything less from someone like you ;) .

  5. Gravatar Icon 5 Vanessa Jul 10th, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    If delusion is what makes me feel better when I am on my meds BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!

  6. Gravatar Icon 6 atlmalcontent Jul 10th, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Actually, I take Paxil, and I wasn’t making fun of the fact you’re on meds, just that you’re delusional. I should read more? I work for a newspaper, you idiot. I read more in an hour than you do in a whole year.

  7. Gravatar Icon 7 atlmalcontent Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    Joey,

    I’ve read Rosie on her blog. I don’t watch Fox. She’s a dumb, conspiracy-spouting loudmouth who graps neither facts nor nuance. Kind of like the author of this blog.

  8. Gravatar Icon 8 duane Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    I read more in an hour than you do in a whole year.

    Who’s delusional again? Yeah.

  9. Gravatar Icon 9 joey Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    It’s not even constructive feedback. It’s trolling pure and simple. Why do you not block him. I wouldn’t have replied to him had I known he was just trying to be vicious.

  10. Gravatar Icon 10 atlmalcontent Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:41 pm

    It ain’t trolling, it’s confronting ignroance. And of course the ignorant reply: censor him. How very predictable.

  11. Gravatar Icon 11 atlmalcontent Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    Dueane,

    Reading about Britney Spears and Paris Hilton doesn’t count. Nor does propaganda (interesting how you never state your sources, since you claim to be so well-informed. Who’s doing the informing?

  12. Gravatar Icon 12 Chad Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Duane
    I think you’re right on! who the hell is this atlmalcontent? I thoroughly enjoy reading your blogs, look forward to them every day. Keep it up my friend!!

  13. Gravatar Icon 13 joey Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    “So above it all — maybe I should try some of your meds, although there appears to be a delusion appears to be a side effect.”

    That isn’t confronting ignorance. Perhaps if you were presenting counterpoints or pointing out fallacies, that would be confronting ignorance.

    And I’m not saying that 100% of what he says is factual or accurate. He injects a lot of opinion and personal feelings, and he has missed points or facts from time to time. But this isn’t a newspaper, and he isn’t a teacher. If you get your news fed to you from a blog and believe it to be truth without further research you’re an idiot. This is a blog, and it’s pretty much what a blog should be. It’s a place for him to put his feelings and thoughts in a way that it’s organized, and he can look back on it later. You lash at him as if he was teaching this to your children as fact.

    Perhaps you should sit down and take a good long look at what you’re doing. Are you really confronting ignorance or spreading it?

  14. Gravatar Icon 14 duane Jul 10th, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    interesting how you never state your sources, since you claim to be so well-informed.

    So, the Washington post, CNN, the New York post, the Associated Press, et al. are not sources? I think those are actual links up there that I am citing as well! Now who’s ignorant?

    I agree with Joey. If you want to point out where I am inconsistent, wrong, or point out that you disagree, stick to that; don’t go for the cheap shots you love so much. It just portrays you as the asshole, and it is glaringly obvious that the asshole is the role you want to play. If you hate my blog so much, why do you read it so religiously?? And, even more important, if you have such a problem with what I am talking about, why not try and sway my opinion by stating something other than your drivel about delusion, ignorance, and stupidity; because that doesn’t prove that you are right in any way.

  15. Gravatar Icon 15 atlmalcontent Jul 10th, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    I do point out where you’re inconsistent and wrong — you just deny being inconsistent and wrong. As for cheap shots, let’s recall all the names you called me: Psychotic, bitter old queen, etc. More scary than your opinions is that people actually agree with you. And none of those organizations you listed have ever written stories about us going to war merely to kill Muslims and steal oil.

  16. Gravatar Icon 16 duane Jul 10th, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    and yet, you have as yet to have refuted any of my points with a counter point. Yawn… this going around in circles is tiring. You need to get some better material.

  17. Gravatar Icon 17 Robguy Jul 11th, 2007 at 12:33 am

    I have to wonder if things aren’t going in Iraq exactly how Bush Co. wants them to go. It really wouldn’t sell to tell the American people that we’re going to invade a country that has the worlds second largest oil reserves, destabilize the region so there is no hope for an independent government for decades, build permanent military bases and force trade agreements so that US oil companies have control of production. You won’t see cheaper prices at the pump, but oil companies will continue to post record profits.

  18. Gravatar Icon 18 mitch Jul 11th, 2007 at 7:46 am

    Apparently, atlmalcontent is the only member of the media that is still in favor of the war…what a shame that with all of the information out there he chooses this stance. I guess in his mind Shrub is King and whatever he says goes.
    It is my OPINION that this war was a fiasco from the beginning and that it is now a quamire of great proportion. There have been so many lives lost (first of all our soldiers, Iraq citizens, and members of Al-Qaeda) not to mention the approximate $255,000,000 each day that Americans are picking up the tab for (and Haliburton is all too ready to accept). Maybe this war could have had some good results under a different administration, but the current idiots do not have a clue.

    Cry all you want Shrub, I will never change my opinion on what an idiotic ass you are.

    Duane, that picture also makes me want to vomit!

  19. Gravatar Icon 19 atlmalcontent Jul 11th, 2007 at 10:01 am

    Mitch, read my blog. I’m about as c ritical as Bush and this war as one can be. Rationally so, unlike Duane here who claims the war was waged only to kill Muslims and steal oil.

  20. Gravatar Icon 20 duane Jul 11th, 2007 at 10:25 am

    atlmalcontent, you are stupider than I thought you were if you truly surmise that I think that the single reason for this war is killing Muslims and taking oil. Sheesh dude, I try to have a discussion with you, and all you do is play the asshole and repeat the same shit over and over about how wrong I am; while still refusing to prove it by giving a counter point, rather than just saying that I am wrong. But I get it, that’s your game, and since that’s all I can expect, so be it.

    And mitch, isn’t it interesting how atlmalcontent is all up in arms about “killing Muslims”, when just last week he wanted to exterminate as many “Islamic extremists” as possible? It sounds to me like someone else is the one being inconsistent here.

  21. Gravatar Icon 21 duane Jul 11th, 2007 at 10:26 am

    Robguy: EXACTLY.

  22. Gravatar Icon 22 atlmalcontent Jul 11th, 2007 at 10:39 am

    You’re confusing me with Dave, although I’d be happy if we wiped out all suicide bombers. There’s no negotiating with religious fanatics (or Duane).

    And you are such a liar — you did say this way was about killing Muslims and taking their oil. I think you’re bipolar, or pathological, don’t know which one, but you cannot continually say things and then claim not to say them.

    BTW, notice you’ve dropped the Holocaust line when comparing this war to WWII. That kind of rhetoric is frankly sick.

  23. Gravatar Icon 23 atlmalcontent Jul 11th, 2007 at 10:41 am

    that’s war, not way …. “this WAR was about killing Muslims.”

    Of course Duane will deny ever saying that. He’ll probably deny the Holocaust comparison, too.

    Ah, I had almost forgotten what sixth grade was like.

  24. Gravatar Icon 24 duane Jul 11th, 2007 at 10:52 am

    And you are such a liar — you did say this way was about killing Muslims and taking their oil. I think you’re bipolar, or pathological, don’t know which one, but you cannot continually say things and then claim not to say them.

    Um, no, actually, I didn’t say this/lie at all. In fact, what I did say, was that was not the SINGLE thing that was the cause of this war. Again, lack of reading comprehension is a major barrier for you. Perhaps that is why you made the sixth grade reference; you are still there, both in reading comprehension and immature playground slap fighting. Grow up and move on, dude. I know that I am not the only one sick of your presence.

  25. Gravatar Icon 25 atlmalcontent Jul 11th, 2007 at 11:20 am

    maybe we should charge admission to a duel.

  26. Gravatar Icon 26 duane Jul 11th, 2007 at 11:35 am

    maybe we should charge admission to a duel.

    I wouldn’t even pay to see that.

  27. Gravatar Icon 27 Wendy Jul 11th, 2007 at 11:51 am

    Set it up – I want to be the moderator. Let me know so I can book the flight. I’m sure a lot of us would love to see a good battle. There would be rules to follow and stiff penalties for breaking them – the audience would decide the winner after the last word is spoken – oh wait – that would never happen since the great one who always visits this blog likes to have the last word.
    Maybe we just need a gun fight that way the winner walks away and the loser – well, he just dies… of course I hate violence.
    I think atlmalcontent should just stay on his side of town and leave everyone alone. If you are so busy reading all day – why do you take the time to post on this blog? You should use your creative juices to write a book on all of your merry-go-round ideas. That way you have the last word!

  28. Gravatar Icon 28 Justoff Jul 11th, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Your foreign policy posts always have the longest threads. I’d only add that I don’t think we invaded Iraq to steal their oil, but to control it and firm up our control over the energy flows in the broader region. (The greatest concentration of our military bases run from the stans of Asia through the Middle East, also where most of the world’s energy lies.) More accurately, the hand that controls the spigot of the global energy supply has a lot of leverage over the other countries in the world. That doesn’t mean we want to hoard all of Iraq’s oil in underground bunkers out Texas way, but it does mean that we can use oil embargoes as more effective means of pressuring rivals in the future.

    This isn’t even controversial or speculative, leading members of our foreign policy elite from Kissinger, Brzezinski, Kennan, Cheney, Wolfowitz, etc. etc. have been very explicit about this for years. (I’ll desist from dropping a dozen or so examples off the top of my head…) You can read about much of it in the scholarship that has examined the declassified records from our government. The investigative journalist Greg Palast actually managed to get a hold of a 300 page state department document laying out the plans for using Iraq’s oil to break OPEC in Harpers a few years ago. You could probably find it using Google. Interesting read.

  29. Gravatar Icon 29 duane Jul 11th, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    Justoff, you are right, we didn’t only invade them to steal their oil, but we do want control over it, and we want to be the ones that make the most profit from it. While our purpose of acquiring it may not technically be stealing, and you are right, our purposes aren’t to just “have it”, it isn’t right, and we know it. Also, unfortunate as it may be, lots of innocent people are dying in this oil war in the process.

    Thanks for the insightful comment, as always ;) .

  30. Gravatar Icon 30 atlmalcontent Jul 11th, 2007 at 6:46 pm

    What about killing the Muslims, Duane … you know you said it, as does everyone else who reads this godawful blog

  31. Gravatar Icon 31 duane Jul 11th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    What about killing the Muslims, Duane … you know you said it, as does everyone else who reads this

    WHAT? I think that you have finally lost it dude. Seriously, you are fucked in the head.

  32. Gravatar Icon 32 mitch Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:10 am

    Atlmalcontent,
    I would read your blog, but you seem so negative toward Duane that I am not sure I want to read it. This is his blog and he has the right to post whatever he likes regardless of his accuracy. I choose to read Duane’s blog as I agree with a lot of what he says. It seems you are full of animosity toward Duane and if you both feel the war was wrong I think your animosity is misplaced. Maybe you should be reading peoples blogs who are in favor of the war and trying to change their minds. Once I see that you can be positive instead of so negative I may give your blog a read.

  33. Gravatar Icon 33 atlmalcontent Jul 12th, 2007 at 8:19 am

    Sorry, Mitch, I’ll never be positive towards Duane. He represents almost evey negative quality I can think of. Some people, you just don’t like.

  34. Gravatar Icon 34 mitch Jul 12th, 2007 at 8:44 am

    Then why go to his site and antogonize it? If you really feel that way, why bring yourself to the level you view him on?

  35. Gravatar Icon 35 duane Jul 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    mitch, do you find it as interesting as I do, that mr. atlmalcontent claims to be the biggest supporter of free speech, and chastises anyone that suggests any regulation of said speech; yet always wants me to stop saying my thoughts an opinions, even in my own space?

    Sounds a little bi-polar to me.

  36. Gravatar Icon 36 atlmalcontent Jul 12th, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    Did I ever tell you to stopo saying anything? Challenging your opinions is not halting them. Although it’s a shame that the left informed always speak the loudest.

  37. Gravatar Icon 37 atlmalcontent Jul 12th, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    that is, the least informed always speak the loudest. I’m bad about editing my comments.

  38. Gravatar Icon 38 mitch Jul 16th, 2007 at 8:18 am

    “Sounds a little bi-polar to me.”

    Very nice!

  39. Gravatar Icon 39 duane Jul 16th, 2007 at 11:33 am

    No, I think you got it right the first time, atlmalcontent!

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