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		<title>By: Rightwing Bugboy</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2007/05/democrats-you-caved-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-8074</link>
		<dc:creator>Rightwing Bugboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no proof to show that you are right; &quot;

A negative cannot be proven.  The entire election was put under a microscope. If there was fraud, it would have been revealed.



&quot;there wasnâ€™t investigation into the matter. Initial investigation did indicate tampering, as well as votes being lost.&quot;

The initial investigation wasn&#039;t an investigation?  There were hearings on the matter that turned  up nothing.


&quot; Not to mention changing polling places, rezoning voting districts, and providing less the necessary number of machines so that wait times would be increased. There is a lot more to it.&quot;


That isn&#039;t voter fraud.  That&#039;s just whining.  Those things happen all the time.  They are called mistakes.  If there was a pattern of doing it deliberately it would be detectable.

I have looked at the real history.  Gore asked for recounts in Democratically-controlled counties (very suspicious) and sent down a legal team of 500 lawyers to dispute as many ballots as possible, especially military ballots (very traitorous), in an attempt to create enough chaos that somehow he could squeak out a win after he clearly lost Fla.

Gore had no respect for our system much less our courts. In fact, he had so much contempt for the law that he wanted the rules of vote counting changed AFTER the election.  That doesn&#039;t seem suspicious to you?

I couldn&#039;t help but notice your complaints omit the single most important fraud during the election when the networks called Fla for Gore before polls closed in conservative, western Fla.  Why don&#039;t your little conspiracy antenna pick up that one?  That one is very blatant.

His plan did not work, thankfully.

Fortunately, even the countless recounts since then confirm Bush really won, so history won&#039;t be confused by the lies of the sore loser Al despite what he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no proof to show that you are right; &#8221;</p>
<p>A negative cannot be proven.  The entire election was put under a microscope. If there was fraud, it would have been revealed.</p>
<p>&#8220;there wasnâ€™t investigation into the matter. Initial investigation did indicate tampering, as well as votes being lost.&#8221;</p>
<p>The initial investigation wasn&#8217;t an investigation?  There were hearings on the matter that turned  up nothing.</p>
<p>&#8221; Not to mention changing polling places, rezoning voting districts, and providing less the necessary number of machines so that wait times would be increased. There is a lot more to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t voter fraud.  That&#8217;s just whining.  Those things happen all the time.  They are called mistakes.  If there was a pattern of doing it deliberately it would be detectable.</p>
<p>I have looked at the real history.  Gore asked for recounts in Democratically-controlled counties (very suspicious) and sent down a legal team of 500 lawyers to dispute as many ballots as possible, especially military ballots (very traitorous), in an attempt to create enough chaos that somehow he could squeak out a win after he clearly lost Fla.</p>
<p>Gore had no respect for our system much less our courts. In fact, he had so much contempt for the law that he wanted the rules of vote counting changed AFTER the election.  That doesn&#8217;t seem suspicious to you?</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but notice your complaints omit the single most important fraud during the election when the networks called Fla for Gore before polls closed in conservative, western Fla.  Why don&#8217;t your little conspiracy antenna pick up that one?  That one is very blatant.</p>
<p>His plan did not work, thankfully.</p>
<p>Fortunately, even the countless recounts since then confirm Bush really won, so history won&#8217;t be confused by the lies of the sore loser Al despite what he did.</p>
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		<title>By: Rightwing Bugboy</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2007/05/democrats-you-caved-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-8072</link>
		<dc:creator>Rightwing Bugboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There were no attacks BEFORE Bush either.&quot;

None here, but there were attempts.  In addition, pre-W there were many attacks overseas under Clinton&#039;s watch. Regardless, Al Qaeda became a force under Clinton&#039;s watch.  Imagine if he had taken it seriously, then perhaps neither 9/11 or Iraq would have happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There were no attacks BEFORE Bush either.&#8221;</p>
<p>None here, but there were attempts.  In addition, pre-W there were many attacks overseas under Clinton&#8217;s watch. Regardless, Al Qaeda became a force under Clinton&#8217;s watch.  Imagine if he had taken it seriously, then perhaps neither 9/11 or Iraq would have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 17:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bugboy, 

There were no attacks BEFORE Bush either. Keep in mind, this attack happened during his watch. He had warnings. He ignored them. Whatever he is doing after is gravy; he allowed it to happen. He is, though, making way more terrorism globally, which you neglect to mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bugboy, </p>
<p>There were no attacks BEFORE Bush either. Keep in mind, this attack happened during his watch. He had warnings. He ignored them. Whatever he is doing after is gravy; he allowed it to happen. He is, though, making way more terrorism globally, which you neglect to mention.</p>
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		<title>By: duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 17:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There was no voter fraud that turned any election around. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
There is no proof to show that you are right; there wasn&#039;t investigation into the matter. Initial investigation did indicate tampering, as well as votes being lost. Not to mention changing polling places, rezoning voting districts, and providing less the necessary number of machines so that wait times would be increased. There is a lot more to it.

And Gore didn&#039;t try to force a win, in fact, as member after member of the Congress came up to request investigation, without the support of any senator, Gore shot down each of their requests. He did not pursue the investigation, and he confirmed what the supreme court requested. Perhaps you should look at the real history of what Gore did before you say that he did anything other than comply with what the courts said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There was no voter fraud that turned any election around. </p></blockquote>
<p>There is no proof to show that you are right; there wasn&#8217;t investigation into the matter. Initial investigation did indicate tampering, as well as votes being lost. Not to mention changing polling places, rezoning voting districts, and providing less the necessary number of machines so that wait times would be increased. There is a lot more to it.</p>
<p>And Gore didn&#8217;t try to force a win, in fact, as member after member of the Congress came up to request investigation, without the support of any senator, Gore shot down each of their requests. He did not pursue the investigation, and he confirmed what the supreme court requested. Perhaps you should look at the real history of what Gore did before you say that he did anything other than comply with what the courts said.</p>
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		<title>By: Rightwing Bugboy</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2007/05/democrats-you-caved-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-8028</link>
		<dc:creator>Rightwing Bugboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 23:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are closing in on 6 years since 9/11 with no attacks here.  They clearly have the ability, which raises the question why.  If they really like Bush&#039;s policies, they would have attacked before the last election.  I think they would rather the Dems win, force retreat, and have the appearance of driving us off.  That is the only thing that will help them, and their accomplices are more than willing.

My suspicion is AQ is not better off now than 6 years ago and they do not want us returning to our &quot;9/11&quot; mentality.  They owned a nation and had free range.  Now, they are pinned down in Iraq and parts of Pakistan and they are hunted.  Many of their financial sources have been shut down.  Their leadership decimated.  American troops all over the place.  They haven&#039;t given up, they will attack us again, and they see opportunity, but they can&#039;t think they are better off.  A better POTUS in &#039;08 with better policies can do more damage to them.


&quot;Militants want you to attack a population&quot; 

Of course, the violence in Iraq against civilians is overwhelmingly done by the insurgents, likely most sectarian in nature, leading me to believe those wounds will never heal.

Have you ever read Giap&#039;s &quot;How We Won the War&quot;?  It&#039;s an amazing look at how the NV/VC operated.  Ironically, the American liberals are the second front in both wars, so be careful when you start your howling and chest thumping about whose policies the enemy likes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are closing in on 6 years since 9/11 with no attacks here.  They clearly have the ability, which raises the question why.  If they really like Bush&#8217;s policies, they would have attacked before the last election.  I think they would rather the Dems win, force retreat, and have the appearance of driving us off.  That is the only thing that will help them, and their accomplices are more than willing.</p>
<p>My suspicion is AQ is not better off now than 6 years ago and they do not want us returning to our &#8220;9/11&#8243; mentality.  They owned a nation and had free range.  Now, they are pinned down in Iraq and parts of Pakistan and they are hunted.  Many of their financial sources have been shut down.  Their leadership decimated.  American troops all over the place.  They haven&#8217;t given up, they will attack us again, and they see opportunity, but they can&#8217;t think they are better off.  A better POTUS in &#8217;08 with better policies can do more damage to them.</p>
<p>&#8220;Militants want you to attack a population&#8221; </p>
<p>Of course, the violence in Iraq against civilians is overwhelmingly done by the insurgents, likely most sectarian in nature, leading me to believe those wounds will never heal.</p>
<p>Have you ever read Giap&#8217;s &#8220;How We Won the War&#8221;?  It&#8217;s an amazing look at how the NV/VC operated.  Ironically, the American liberals are the second front in both wars, so be careful when you start your howling and chest thumping about whose policies the enemy likes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rightwing Bugboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rightwing Bugboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 23:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bugboy, if we voted for him, and the popular vote was for him, then HE WON. That is what happens in an election. Thanks to voter fraud, the electoral college votes were manipulated, and they took the presidency from him. This is pretty common knowledge.&quot;

No, that&#039;s lunacy.  There was no voter fraud that turned any election around.  I think there were suspicions of dead people voting for Gore in Illinois, but not enough to matter.

The recounts, during and long after the election, affirmed Bush the winner, despite Gore&#039;s attempt to force a win by spoiling the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bugboy, if we voted for him, and the popular vote was for him, then HE WON. That is what happens in an election. Thanks to voter fraud, the electoral college votes were manipulated, and they took the presidency from him. This is pretty common knowledge.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s lunacy.  There was no voter fraud that turned any election around.  I think there were suspicions of dead people voting for Gore in Illinois, but not enough to matter.</p>
<p>The recounts, during and long after the election, affirmed Bush the winner, despite Gore&#8217;s attempt to force a win by spoiling the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 13:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Gore more as an activist than a politician. 

One thing that anyone should be able to agree on is that Bush has acted in ways to increase the threat of terrorism. This has been confirmed in a number of studies, both within and outside of the establishment. 
(State Department. 2005) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;U.S. Figures Show Sharp Global Rise In Terrorism&lt;/a&gt;
(State Department. 2007) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/may/0501_terrorism_increase.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iraq blamed for 2006 terrorism increase&lt;/a&gt;
(Bergen and Cruickshank 2007) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2007/03/iraq_effect_1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Iraq Effect: War has increased terrorism sevenfold worldwide&lt;/a&gt;

An interesting anecdote: The State Department used to publish an annual terrorism report titled â€œPatterns of Terrorism.â€ The first version of the 2004 edition found that incidents of terrorism had sharply declined in 2003. Bush et al lauded this as proof that his war on terrorism was working A few weeks later the State Department published a retraction; in fact, incidents of terrorism had doubled.
The Bush Administration terminated the report after that. (I found a copy to the Knight Ridder article reporting this, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/37/10412&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/081106.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OK, one more: &lt;/a&gt;Several analysts in the CIA concluded that Bin Laden wanted Bush to win reelection because Bush&#039;s policies in the Middle East were a boon to groups like Al Qaeda. Other analysts have warned this as well and its a well known obvious lesson of guerrilla warfare. Militants want you to attack a population because every brother and sister that is killed leaves behind enraged friends and family. You either have to kill everyone (which we won&#039;t) or find more intelligent ways to get the people you are after (which we are too dumb to do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Gore more as an activist than a politician. </p>
<p>One thing that anyone should be able to agree on is that Bush has acted in ways to increase the threat of terrorism. This has been confirmed in a number of studies, both within and outside of the establishment.<br />
(State Department. 2005) <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.html" rel="nofollow">U.S. Figures Show Sharp Global Rise In Terrorism</a><br />
(State Department. 2007) <a href="http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/may/0501_terrorism_increase.shtml" rel="nofollow">Iraq blamed for 2006 terrorism increase</a><br />
(Bergen and Cruickshank 2007) <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2007/03/iraq_effect_1.html" rel="nofollow">The Iraq Effect: War has increased terrorism sevenfold worldwide</a></p>
<p>An interesting anecdote: The State Department used to publish an annual terrorism report titled â€œPatterns of Terrorism.â€ The first version of the 2004 edition found that incidents of terrorism had sharply declined in 2003. Bush et al lauded this as proof that his war on terrorism was working A few weeks later the State Department published a retraction; in fact, incidents of terrorism had doubled.<br />
The Bush Administration terminated the report after that. (I found a copy to the Knight Ridder article reporting this, <a href="http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/37/10412" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/081106.html" rel="nofollow">OK, one more: </a>Several analysts in the CIA concluded that Bin Laden wanted Bush to win reelection because Bush&#8217;s policies in the Middle East were a boon to groups like Al Qaeda. Other analysts have warned this as well and its a well known obvious lesson of guerrilla warfare. Militants want you to attack a population because every brother and sister that is killed leaves behind enraged friends and family. You either have to kill everyone (which we won&#8217;t) or find more intelligent ways to get the people you are after (which we are too dumb to do.)</p>
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		<title>By: duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 00:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bugboy, if we voted for him, and the popular vote was for him, then HE WON. That is what happens in an election. Thanks to voter fraud, the electoral college votes were manipulated, and they took the presidency from him. This is pretty common knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bugboy, if we voted for him, and the popular vote was for him, then HE WON. That is what happens in an election. Thanks to voter fraud, the electoral college votes were manipulated, and they took the presidency from him. This is pretty common knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Rightwing Bugboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rightwing Bugboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Duane, your overall statement is correct: they caved in.  If they really believe what they purport to believe, they shouldn&#039;t have caved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Duane, your overall statement is correct: they caved in.  If they really believe what they purport to believe, they shouldn&#8217;t have caved.</p>
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		<title>By: Rightwing Bugboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rightwing Bugboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane...the Democrats lied to you, again, and you believed them, again. Quit doing that.  They have no honor and will say anything to push your buttons.

Since you are so concerned about the bloodshed of the war, how would you feel if your policy of pullout resulted in what I predict?  Would you feel responsible?


&quot;wish Al Gore would have actually been able to take the presidency he won.&quot;

I&#039;ve read 3 books on this subject.  He didn&#039;t win. Oh sure he got the popular vote (which is why he&#039;s a puss for not making a comeback) but he did not win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane&#8230;the Democrats lied to you, again, and you believed them, again. Quit doing that.  They have no honor and will say anything to push your buttons.</p>
<p>Since you are so concerned about the bloodshed of the war, how would you feel if your policy of pullout resulted in what I predict?  Would you feel responsible?</p>
<p>&#8220;wish Al Gore would have actually been able to take the presidency he won.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read 3 books on this subject.  He didn&#8217;t win. Oh sure he got the popular vote (which is why he&#8217;s a puss for not making a comeback) but he did not win.</p>
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