Um, I have to say that I was apprehensive when the show Heroes came on last night, as it was (is) THE show I was looking most forward to this season. Going in, it was a bit all over the place, but all in all, the story is coming together, and it is definitely promising. I like how they have given you a taste of many different characters, while showing the potential for them to be tied together. I love the premise, and can’t wait to see the next episode. My only fear, gasp, is that because now I am hooked on a great show that I really genuinely like, they will probably cancel it. It has to cost a lot to produce, and you know they don’t give a shit about the viewer… it’s about money. I have written about this before. So, I am preemptively BEGGING NBC, don’t cancel this show! Not yet! And don’t pull an Invasion on us… I still can’t believe they canceled that shit. Anyway… you know where I will be next Monday night… watching Heroes!! It’s great!
Also, I wanted to say thanks for all the comments yesterday… it is nice to know that I am not the only one that thinks attraction and not action is healthy. Coolness! A couple of people discussed potential issues with it, or mentioned it wasn’t for them, and that’s fine. It’s good we all have different opinions after all! Now, I can go back to swooning over Jake Gyllenhaal and not feel bad about it!
Finally, I was thinking this morning about a conversation that I had this weekend over beers. I was talking to a couple of friends, and I don’t know how I came up, but regardless, the question was asked “if you could blow yourself, would you?”. A resounding HELL YES came from both straight guys, and I followed that with “well, that is gay sex, you know.”. Because it is. It was also discussed that if they had a clone, would they have sex with their clone. Again, the answer was yes; because it was sex with themselves. I don’t see that as anything other than gay sex, because if you are having sex with someone of the same sex, even if it is yourself, that is gay sex, yo. What do you all think? Is it really gay sex, or just fanciful pleasure giving? It is definitely both, but I am trying to see if you think it is gay sex too, I guess. Discuss!
Also, on a personal note, I finally updated my ipod for the first time in 6 months last night… perhaps this is a good step towards climbing out of this depression valley. YAY!
Heroes: Agreed. I didn’t realize there was going to be such a big overlying storyline about all the characters. That excites me.
Sex thing: As one of the ’straight guys’ from the original conversation, I restate that performing sexual activities on one’s self is not gay sex. If that was the case, then every single person would be engaging in gay sex every time they masturbated. Your argument holds no water.
Although, with the clone part, you actually have an argument.
LOL, I never thought I would say this, but I was talking more about blowing yourself, rather than masturbating. Masturbating isn’t gay at all. But sucking your own dick definitely is.
That was an argument against masturbation in a crazy Christian book I read. (Yes, even crazier than Every Young Man’s Battle.) Don’t touch yourself!! It means you’re gay!!
*head explodes*
I say, who the fuck cares? I am really tired of all the labeling wrt sex, sexuality, sexual acts, etc. And Duane, I think you would agree, right? I mean, you of all people understand that being gay is not determined by whose genitals you touch; it’s a state of being, it’s a part of your identity.
Like, that one time another chick licked my pussy? Does that mean I’m gay? Does than mean I’m bi? No, it means a chick licked my pussy. And who freaking cares.
But, you know, ultimately people like to categorize. I don’t think this is necessarily a bad thing. But when it comes to something as complex as sexuality, I think we do ourselves a grave disservice when we force people to adhere to stringent, black-and-white definitions.
I don’t understand. If I were to jerk a dude off, that would be considered gay, would it not? Where is the line drawn?
Yeah, I’m gonna have to agree with Amber. That’s stretching it a bit.
Haha, stretching it.
Jerking off a dude cannot make you gay.
100% correct, Amber. I totally agree. I guess I just thought it was interesting that two straight guys didn’t see sex with a man (albeit their clone), or blowing someone (albeit themselves) as a gay sexual act. It was just interesting… I totally don’t think being gay has anything with sex; it is state of who you are. If you have sex with a man, you an MSM (man who has sex with men), if you identify yourself as gay, then you are gay.
And nothing can MAKE you gay, you are just born that way, and can accept that or not, but it is something you are born with.
I just commented about if you liked Heros on the last post. I loved it. The Japanese dude is my favorite so far but I’m an Otaku. So the first time I heard Yatta on the preview at the theater Me and my boy went Nuttts and no one knew why… DON’T BE DEPRESSED DUANE! Everyone’s a lil guy dude leave them in their closets where they feel safe. I would love a clone by the way. But then again who wouldn’t want a clone of me. I am made of Awesome. At least people keep telling me this. I say let them blow themselves then they’ll be like I wonder if it’s this much fun blowing someone else. Lol, everyone claims to be str8 but I’ve learned very few are 100% str8. Lalala… It was explained to me once that as long as the two cocks never touch then no one’s gay. He truly proved how smart Jocks can be… I say if you suck a penis and/or stick your penis in a butt or allow a penis to be inserted into yours then you are at the very least Bisexual. But what do I know? I hate Labels. I am simply ME. I have always enjoyed being called a freak though. :oP
Quoting from my friend Dacia, who summarized things very nicely a few months ago:
That’s sort of like saying to a white person “you have one black ancestor seven generations ago, so you’re not white.” Or to a person with all English ancestors except for a single Irish descendent “you’re not English.”
I understand people need taxonomy to make sense of the world, but don’t take any of it too seriously.
Amber,
I never said jerking a dude off would “make” me gay. I don’t believe one can be made gay. You either are or you aren’t.
Rusty,
I was referring to the act of jerking a dude off as a gay act, being that it is a guy/guy sexual action after all. I’m not the one applying labels though. I’m just trying to use duane’s own logic to prove the fallacy in his statement.
Maybe it’s a ‘gay act’ in that it involves 2 people of the same gender; but my feeling about this kind of thing tends to be, as Dacia said: who gives a shit?
And yeah I know it was just a funny ha-ha conversation about cloning yourself and other improbabilities, but ya know… issues of sexuality, especially when I detect pigeon-holing, always make me perk up my ears.
Oh god, this argument is making my head hurt. I’m just going to watch my DVR recording of Heroes right now! I have waiting for this show. Glad you liked it, it must be interesting.
“Being gay” is a state of being. Guys might like sex with guys sometimes but don’t identify with wanting to live with a male partner the rest of their lives. Like I always say, “yeah, that dude’s straight…..straight to bed.”
Duane, you have far too much time on your hands! Actually, I’ve asked myself many times if I’d have sex with myself. I’m gay and the answer is still usually no. That’s sad.
I just watched Heroes last night. It has earned a place on my TiVo (bumping Vanished, actually).