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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Making friends as an adult is a lot like dating. Don&#8217;t you think?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2006/03/making-friends-as-an-adult-is-a-lot-like-dating-dont-you-think/#comment-1943</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The title of this entry is exactly right, and it encapsulates a problem I've been having lately with a friend of mine, who I'll call Diana. Diana is younger than I am (she's 24, I'm 35), and of the opposite sex.  It seemed like we were on the road to becoming pretty good friends, which was significant to me because, well, I'm 35, and it's not so easy to make good friends anymore. But lately, I've been making all of the effort, which pisses me off and makes me feel like an idiot. Not being the type to hide my feelings, I've been blunt about the fact that I don't like the situation, that I'd like to be better friends, etc. Her reaction: she doesn't understand why friendship should require effort, and she's freaked out because talking about it sounds like the kind of conversation people in a romantic relationship would have. 

And I agree that it does sound like that, which is weird -- especially because we're both married. But how else do you make the point that you're unhappy that a friendship is on the wane? You either deal with it, and have the relationship-sounding conversation, or you stew about it and express your dissatisfaction in other ways. Usually worse ways. 

A big part of the problem, I think, is that my friend is just out of school.  In school, you see the same people all the time, you're doing the same things, etc. In that situation, friendships just happen. Or at least they seem to, because the circumstances are such that the effort involved in friendship is minimal. 

Outside of that realm, however -- i.e., in the adult world of work, family, and other non-negotiable obligations -- friendships don't just happen anymore. Even my best friends, whom I've known for 20+ years and who live only a few miles away, I don't see more than twice a month, on average. That takes its toll. Those people are still my "best friends," but it's partly by default: there's no one to step into the breach. 

Anyway, this has been bugging me a lot, so I was looking for things to read to help understand what the problem is. Thanks for the post and the discussion. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The title of this entry is exactly right, and it encapsulates a problem I&#8217;ve been having lately with a friend of mine, who I&#8217;ll call Diana. Diana is younger than I am (she&#8217;s 24, I&#8217;m 35), and of the opposite sex.  It seemed like we were on the road to becoming pretty good friends, which was significant to me because, well, I&#8217;m 35, and it&#8217;s not so easy to make good friends anymore. But lately, I&#8217;ve been making all of the effort, which pisses me off and makes me feel like an idiot. Not being the type to hide my feelings, I&#8217;ve been blunt about the fact that I don&#8217;t like the situation, that I&#8217;d like to be better friends, etc. Her reaction: she doesn&#8217;t understand why friendship should require effort, and she&#8217;s freaked out because talking about it sounds like the kind of conversation people in a romantic relationship would have. </p>
<p>And I agree that it does sound like that, which is weird &#8212; especially because we&#8217;re both married. But how else do you make the point that you&#8217;re unhappy that a friendship is on the wane? You either deal with it, and have the relationship-sounding conversation, or you stew about it and express your dissatisfaction in other ways. Usually worse ways. </p>
<p>A big part of the problem, I think, is that my friend is just out of school.  In school, you see the same people all the time, you&#8217;re doing the same things, etc. In that situation, friendships just happen. Or at least they seem to, because the circumstances are such that the effort involved in friendship is minimal. </p>
<p>Outside of that realm, however &#8212; i.e., in the adult world of work, family, and other non-negotiable obligations &#8212; friendships don&#8217;t just happen anymore. Even my best friends, whom I&#8217;ve known for 20+ years and who live only a few miles away, I don&#8217;t see more than twice a month, on average. That takes its toll. Those people are still my &#8220;best friends,&#8221; but it&#8217;s partly by default: there&#8217;s no one to step into the breach. </p>
<p>Anyway, this has been bugging me a lot, so I was looking for things to read to help understand what the problem is. Thanks for the post and the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: duane</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2006/03/making-friends-as-an-adult-is-a-lot-like-dating-dont-you-think/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is funny! I will go back and correct your address in the comments you left; you know, I thought it was you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is funny! I will go back and correct your address in the comments you left; you know, I thought it was you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2006/03/making-friends-as-an-adult-is-a-lot-like-dating-dont-you-think/#comment-1941</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woops!!!  He'll love to know that I've been commenting with his blog address.  :lol:

It's http://tunagirl.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops!!!  He&#8217;ll love to know that I&#8217;ve been commenting with his blog address.  <img src='http://www.duanemoody.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It&#8217;s <a href="http://tunagirl.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://tunagirl.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: duane</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2006/03/making-friends-as-an-adult-is-a-lot-like-dating-dont-you-think/#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen: travelingspotlight.com is the address that you put for both of your entries!!! What is your website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen: travelingspotlight.com is the address that you put for both of your entries!!! What is your website?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2006/03/making-friends-as-an-adult-is-a-lot-like-dating-dont-you-think/#comment-1939</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But...awww...you linked my name to Patrick's blog.  I mean, you know...he's my best friend and I love him and all, but I wouldn't want to be mistaken for him.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But&#8230;awww&#8230;you linked my name to Patrick&#8217;s blog.  I mean, you know&#8230;he&#8217;s my best friend and I love him and all, but I wouldn&#8217;t want to be mistaken for him.  <img src='http://www.duanemoody.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2006/03/making-friends-as-an-adult-is-a-lot-like-dating-dont-you-think/#comment-1938</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Who knew anyone ever listened to me?

Sometimes I find that I end up being friends with people just because they do all the work of calling me and setting up get-togethers.  If I had to put in the effort, I probably would never hang out with them in the first place.

I've sworn that I'm going to try harder.  I really have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Who knew anyone ever listened to me?</p>
<p>Sometimes I find that I end up being friends with people just because they do all the work of calling me and setting up get-togethers.  If I had to put in the effort, I probably would never hang out with them in the first place.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sworn that I&#8217;m going to try harder.  I really have.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've made one close friend in the last 20 years; it's as stressful as dating which I hate. If the bf and I break up I will probably die single. Every time I socialize with a new group of people I feel uneasy for several days afterwards, analyzing every conversation in my head and wondering if I made a complete ass of myself. I think there is something wrong with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made one close friend in the last 20 years; it&#8217;s as stressful as dating which I hate. If the bf and I break up I will probably die single. Every time I socialize with a new group of people I feel uneasy for several days afterwards, analyzing every conversation in my head and wondering if I made a complete ass of myself. I think there is something wrong with me.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.duanemoody.com/2006/03/making-friends-as-an-adult-is-a-lot-like-dating-dont-you-think/#comment-1936</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are absolutely spot on with this one. It requires effort from BOTH people to make a friendship work. Now that I'm back to work and don't have the time to be chasing down people to do stuff I'm pretty sure my herd of friends will thin out significantly. The good news is that so far the ones I really care about seem to be "sticking" which leads me to believe that I made good choices with these friendships in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely spot on with this one. It requires effort from BOTH people to make a friendship work. Now that I&#8217;m back to work and don&#8217;t have the time to be chasing down people to do stuff I&#8217;m pretty sure my herd of friends will thin out significantly. The good news is that so far the ones I really care about seem to be &#8220;sticking&#8221; which leads me to believe that I made good choices with these friendships in the first place.</p>
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